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Yeah that's what I tell my wife when mysterious wimmen PayPal me.

Happens all the time.

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Thanks for the donation, Klappy.

It's been ages since anyone donated, except for a couple of guys who have been contributing since the start or nearly so, and have no reason to donate again but just seem to be class acts. And to them, hats off, too...

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i'm thinking about locking the forum to current membership only. i'm tired of dealing with the daily influx of faked accounts. furthermore, of the valid accounts maybe 1 in 100 new entrants seem to donate. i'm not feeling the love for this new breed of nongratitude. it seems like i meet an attitude of entitlement in a lot of the email i get and i really get tired of it. the guys that came in earlier, especially the pioneer crowd, and a few more recent types have been real contributors here, and are much appreciated nonetheless. i like seeing their posts and hope the forum has use for them.

thoughts? am i thinking greedy? am i temperamental? i question myself on my feelings and how much time i want to spend.

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i'm thinking about locking the forum to current membership only. i'm tired of dealing with the daily influx of faked accounts. furthermore, of the valid accounts maybe 1 in 100 new entrants seem to donate. i'm not feeling the love for this new breed of nongratitude. it seems like i meet an attitude of entitlement in a lot of the email i get and i really get tired of it. the guys that came in earlier, especially the pioneer crowd, and a few more recent types have been real contributors here, and are much appreciated nonetheless. i like seeing their posts and hope the forum has use for them.

thoughts? am i thinking greedy? am i temperamental? i question myself on my feelings and how much time i want to spend.


First off, let me just say thank you for continuing to host this forum. You've gone on with it for a lot longer than I maybe expected, in all honesty.

You could always try freezing things for a while and open it back up at a later time if you feel so inclined. I'd rather see this resource carry on in whatever fashion works for you rather than go away. Another possibility would be to just charge an entry fee up front, but it seems like that would probably just ramp up the entitlement issue pretty substantially.

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i'd also like to be able to pay some money toward wcriley for his fine moderation, and Foz and sclift for their work on the true 3-way crossovers...

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i'd also like to be able to pay some money toward wcriley for his fine moderation, and Foz and sclift for their work on the true 3-way crossovers...


That will make him even more grumpy :D
I guess I understand what you're saying. Maybe give it a try and see where it gets you. Many (most??) new members post the mandatory 'hello' and are never seen again. which is a pitty, but also reflects how people are novadays. Everything is (or should be) free and explained to them in easy pieces.
I don't post as much as I used to but visit daily and follow most threads with interest.

On the negative side: how are people supposed to ask questions about building etc?? Maybe an idea to require a minimum payment for board registration?

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I did it cause I love ya [and my 66] greenie - so no money for me - just hugs.

PS a modest proposal - change your email link to shitdaveaintgonnaread@greenboy.us - anybody got a question, let em post it to the forum - and Grumpy Bill should perma-ban someone every couple of weeks... pour encourager les autres!

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greenboy wrote:
i'm thinking about locking the forum to current membership only. i'm tired of dealing with the daily influx of faked accounts. furthermore, of the valid accounts maybe 1 in 100 new entrants seem to donate. i'm not feeling the love for this new breed of nongratitude. it seems like i meet an attitude of entitlement in a lot of the email i get and i really get tired of it. the guys that came in earlier, especially the pioneer crowd, and a few more recent types have been real contributors here, and are much appreciated nonetheless. i like seeing their posts and hope the forum has use for them.

thoughts? am i thinking greedy? am i temperamental? i question myself on my feelings and how much time i want to spend.


First off, let me just say thank you for continuing to host this forum. You've gone on with it for a lot longer than I maybe expected, in all honesty.

You could always try freezing things for a while and open it back up at a later time if you feel so inclined. I'd rather see this resource carry on in whatever fashion works for you rather than go away. Another possibility would be to just charge an entry fee up front, but it seems like that would probably just ramp up the entitlement issue pretty substantially.


I second the "thank you" for the forum. I've learned many things from it.

I think a small entry fee, say $10 or $15, would filter out the fake accounts, and the folks just passing by. You'd tend to get more new members with genuine interest. Then explain in the entry form that the fee is only for the purpose of filtering out the casual passers by and to pay for some of the cost of hosting and managing the forum (with donations encouraged), but without any further entitlements.

Also emphasize to read the FAQ before posting about re-designing the cabs, or using different or re-using X drivers, or an existing cab. The cab plans are provided "as is" and the recommendation is not to deviate from the plans...

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thoughts? am i thinking greedy? am i temperamental? i question myself on my feelings and how much time i want to spend.

Hell no Dave, I wouldn't want to put up with the amount of crap you have to endure and the time you have to spend for the privilege. It's your forum, do with it as you wish.

I believe that anyone who uses your plans should donate (but am probably preaching to the converted in this thread).

Another big Thank You for the designs and the forum.

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thoughts? am i thinking greedy? am i temperamental? i question myself on my feelings and how much time i want to spend.

Hell no Dave, I wouldn't want to put up with the amount of crap you have to endure and the time you have to spend for the privilege. It's your forum, do with it as you wish.

I believe that anyone who uses your plans should donate (but am probably preaching to the converted in this thread).

Another big Thank You for the designs and the forum.

An option might be a small fee to access secured plans, but not sure on same for forum membership. However, that could also lead to a 'black market' situation, unfortunately. Happy with whatever you choose, Dave!

Also very appreciative of all your work & the stellar community that backs your vision. That extends to deals on drivers (by which i got my 3015LF from CO) & other components, no small benefit considering the premium we pay DownUnder. And, of course, the ABs & the great service Leland provides at speakerhardware.com. My own meagre contribution was decidedly tardy, but I always intended to do so upon completion of my first build. I just never planned for that to take nearly three bloody years!

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i'm thinking about locking the forum to current membership only. i'm tired of dealing with the daily influx of faked accounts. furthermore, of the valid accounts maybe 1 in 100 new entrants seem to donate. i'm not feeling the love for this new breed of nongratitude. it seems like i meet an attitude of entitlement in a lot of the email i get and i really get tired of it. the guys that came in earlier, especially the pioneer crowd, and a few more recent types have been real contributors here, and are much appreciated nonetheless. i like seeing their posts and hope the forum has use for them.

thoughts? am i thinking greedy? am i temperamental? i question myself on my feelings and how much time i want to spend.


First off, let me say, I think you're a f*cking genious and I am very appreciative of your positive influence on my daily struggle to learn how to play bass guitar. I will always be grateful!
Secondly, I don't envy you on the decision to be made. I ran a few scenarios thru my limited thought process and they all had pros & cons to them. No easy solution. Whatever you decide to do, I will respect that decision and know that it was the right decision for all concerned!
Yeah, I know, no help here ........... just wanted to voice my thoughts & THANK YOU ! :D

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you guys who have donated before, i don't know why you are doing it again. seriously.

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you guys who have donated before, i don't know why you are doing it again. seriously.

Gratitude!

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deltafred wrote:
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you guys who have donated before, i don't know why you are doing it again. seriously.

Gratitude!

Yup!

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WOW! I guess I should check in here more often than once or twice a week. :oops:

Greenie, just so you know: I would absolutely refuse any remuneration for herding this bunch of social misfits. It's actually been a lot of fun. (Although, I will admit to having lost a bit of interest along with my interest in playing.)

As for shutting down acceptance of new members...well...that would leave only TB for newbies to get advice and ask questions about fEARfuls...and you know how much misinformation that place has dished out over the years.

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you guys who have donated before, i don't know why you are doing it again. seriously.


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Foz wrote:
Grumpy Bill should perma-ban someone every couple of weeks... pour encourager les autres!

Oops...I guess I forgot to tell you that you've been on super secret probation for the past 3 months.

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greenboy

I completely sympathise with your position. In the day job I work in IT, and contribute to a number of forums. The number of ingrates who are just looking for someone to do their computer science homework for them (always with lots of lols and emoticons) is really quite depressing. However I always console myself that for every ten of those there are one or two that are interesting problems that benefit everybody and help move the forum forwards.

Your decision to make your designs publicly available is a great gift to the bass-playing community and should be applauded. Like open-source software projects, there are a lot of complainers who contribute nothing, and a few stalwarts who really bring something to the party. Like those who've done the True Crossovers, for example.

Well, that's my $0.02 worth. I feel better already :)

Sent ten bucks via PayPal to keep the forum alive.


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wow. just checked and there have only been two donations in the past year. might want to think about that because i sure don't like having to ; }

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Thanks for the note, vbchaos, but you've already done more than your fair share to keep the site going. The past couple of years less and less people have participated in any meaningful way toward community or cost. No need for those who already did it to feel beholden when a few of the more recent cab builders could participate and make it seem like it was worth continuing.

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Thanks for the note, vbchaos, but you've already done more than your fair share to keep the site going. The past couple of years less and less people have participated in any meaningful way toward community or cost. No need for those who already did it to feel beholden when a few of the more recent cab builders could participate and make it seem like it was worth continuing.


To clarify: I didn't jump in for others, but I think a place like this should be supported. Dave put out a ****load of work when designing these cabinets, and their reputation is what brings people here. Pulling the plans and leaving without contribution is what I notice a lot lately; Posting the mandatory welcome message, maybe asking some questions (where can I find the plans... I think I'll change the plans here, here and there because I think it will make the cabinet better... Can someone please calculate all the shit for me to tell me that I am right???) and leaving without anything in return... I mean, at least contribute some knowledge to others. That ain't so hard? And a couple of dollars won't hurt you - you just paid 500+$ (at the very least) to build a cabinet, there should be 20 more bucks to contribute, aight?

Just my 2cents

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Agreed - I think if everyone who built a cab or got substantial help fixing one kicked in $20 we would be in a better place.... just saying.

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For some reason unknown to me, PayPal stopped sending me notifications about donations to the account. So I'm manually going though the account right now to see what's what.

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I've run into two donations that didn't have a local username or email address in the note so if you've donated and not gotten the royal purple username here let me know...

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I received a PayPal donation notification this morning that has no note of username or email@ used here (not you, BenBreeg -- I could trace yours).

I may be magic but this one has me stumped.

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